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to 5.0 or not to 5.0
BJL Offline
Moderator
#1
Well my engine is leaking around 2 quarts a week oil. And well I just dotn have the time to do a 700 dollar rebuild on the engine.
I have been debating on this.
There is a 92 Lincoln Mark VII for sale near me they want 4000 for it, they said they give me 1000 trade in on my car (they now nothing about its problems). All I need is 500 cash for down payment, get it fully insurance and I drive it away.
Now my problem.
I have put allot of money into this car and built it up form being a junkyard car.
My Friend/x-girlfriend (*turbochick*) wont let me get rid of it. So she keep rubbing that in.
What do I do!!!?!?!? i nee a complete rebuild, i mean complete the whole engine except the turbo. Is there anyone that makes a total engine rebuild kit, or should I just go for the 5.0 powered Lincoln (BTW the Lincoln is all black with tan leather, sweet car, has the bbs rims etc etc)
or how about the 5.0l sitting in a smashed 88 Sport in my back yard!?



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Brian J Larkin
1988 Turbo Coupe 5spd, dark blue and shining like a peice of polished glass.
http://crazydriver358.5u.com
Brian J Larkin
88TC 320k miles
T3, FMIC ,3in stinger exhaust, gillis,
255 walbro, afpr, 5spd swap,spec clutch, sn95 5 lug,.
89 Cougar XR7 3.8SC Auto
95 Ranger Splash 3.0 auto
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segfaultxr7 Offline
Posting Freak
#2
I'd definitely stick with the TC if I were you. Have you considered getting a junkyard 2.3T?. If you don't have the time to do a rebuild, well, I think a 5.0 swap would be at least as time-consuming.

How many miles are on that Mark? Keep in mind the Lincoln is more expensive to maintain. The air suspension can be expensive, and problems with the shocks are pretty common--just look at Lincolns driving around and you'll see that a lot are squatting.

Plus the 91 Mark I drove was a lot slower than my TC on the highway. I was really surprised, seems like a lot of that 225hp/275tq comes up missing.
88 TC 5-speed
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thesandman144 Offline
Member
#3
DONT DO IT LIKE YOU SAID you put alot of time and money into it if you get the licoln which to me is a wanna be a turbo you dont really know what wrong with it and the expenses that will occur fro fixing it if you have a 5.0 liter laying around throw that in instead get allen moore to make you a custom header for your turbo and walla you still have a tc and youll miss us if you get the lsc
(nato member) comletely rebuilt suspension with additon of caster camber plates lowered with mustang springs painted candy royal blue next up is increase of horse power by any means possable, (second place is just the first loser)
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Pete D Offline
Administrator
#4
I can't believ that any of the alternatives you mentioned are cheaper than either a rebuild or a decent JY turbo engine. I'd certainly hate to see you give up on the TC after all the work you have done on it. The Lincoln is a real potential money pit and those air suspensions are real expensive it they break.

The 5.0 isn't going to be any quicker to install than another turbo engine. With a little help you could do it in a weekend or less.

Also remember the thing about a woman scorned as your making your decision. [Image: biggrin.gif]
Pete Dunham


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Glenn 88TC Offline
Posting Freak
#5
Doesn't everyone have an extra long block laying around, or am I the only one? Fix the 2.3 and keep all the benefits of the hard work you have already done. I hate tostart over. Never piss off a woman!!!

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Glenn 88TC
current mods (13.809 at 98.48mph): ported & polished big valve head(1.89/1.59), ranger roller, gutted upper and ported lower intakes, t3/t4 turbo, MSD 6al, MSD Launch Control, K&N filter, Walboro 255 pump, Kirban adj. fuel reg., ATR header, full 3" exhaust with Dynomax Ultraflow muffler, Star stage III ceramic clutch, Tiny Avenger bleed valve, Weld Draglites with M/T ET Street 26x11.5/15

Winter 2001-2002 upgrades - powerstroke intercooler(mounted full size or it won't be going in), 65mm throttle body, 42lb. injectors, custom grind roller cam, big turbo, rear suspension upgrades
NO TC and NO headaches.
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anoblefox Offline
Member
#6
nearly all people that recommend against a 5.0 T-Bird conversion have never driven one. I'm not a 2.3L engine fan, I don't knock them, they are a stout engine. What they don't have is TORQUE, and thats what most American (heteroasexual for duanetc) men like. I love the chassis and body style, I have owned 4 now, two with 5.0's and one beautiful black one soon to have one; the fourth one ended up as a money making parts car. All I am saying is don't knock one unless you have tried one. They are everything and more than a Mustang will ever be, with class, style (and no 4 cylinder vibrator!)

[This message has been edited by anoblefox (edited 02-22-2002).]
88 5.0 thunderbird turbocoupe
84 mercury capri 5.0 EFI
64 mercury comet cyclone 5.0 EFI
77 ford bronco 5.0 EFI
96 mustang cobra convertible
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duanetc Offline
Member
#7
240ft/lbs stock isnt enough torque-why dont you look at pnrvegas's dynosheets at turboford.org over 400ft/lbs of torque-i think you are a litle miss educated on this subjuct anoblefox. duane
t3/t4 ball bearing hybrid spearco intercooler. Ported big valve head, 44pph injectors,motorsport cam and roller followers kirban afpr walbro 255lph fuel pump 65mm tb atrp downpipe extrude honed intakes and a ported e6 atr external wastegate greddy bov prolly some stuff I missed too
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BJL Offline
Moderator
#8
Well those were mostly brain farts i was just trying to see what I can do, the Lincoln has 80,906 miles, i test drove it today. It has a nice V8 grumble and those seat were comfortable, but it did lack one thing, handling, ugh I not going with it unless I would convert to coil springs,
but always I talked it over with my dad tonight. My 4X6 foot oil spot I left in the past week is really annoying him. So he wants to rebuild the 2.3l or replace it
I have a dissembled long block in my basement but it think the block is cracke,d i rather do a quick change over I mean quick I don’t work on Saturdays or Sundays but I have lack of engine hoist to remove the engine unless I can figure a way to rent one.
I want my old Motor back before I blew the first head gasket, the car that you could drop it into 2nd at 40mph and just go and GO! Instead now when I do that I leave a trail of smoke and the smoke starts coming inside, ugh. Then the oil leaks every where, stupid blow by.
Yea I pissed her (*turbochick*) off today even though I’m like not "with her" we are still good friends and she was pissed when I said I wanted to trade it(turbo coupe) in. its her car, lol. Only way she get if she marries me, but I doubt that.
but I would like to get this car back to the way it was.
I want it to start at 11:30 in the school parking lot and stay running right now it stalls out constantly unless I sit there and hold it steady at 3000rpm and with my foot steady it will drop to about 2000rpm. So I got fix that.
Any body have a good used long block laying around they need to get ride of cheap?!?!!
In the south jersey area!?!?
HELP!!!!


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Brian J Larkin
1988 Turbo Coupe 5spd, dark blue and shining like a peice of polished glass.
http://crazydriver358.5u.com
Brian J Larkin
88TC 320k miles
T3, FMIC ,3in stinger exhaust, gillis,
255 walbro, afpr, 5spd swap,spec clutch, sn95 5 lug,.
89 Cougar XR7 3.8SC Auto
95 Ranger Splash 3.0 auto
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dbird Offline
Junior Member
#9
Hey,
Heres another idea: Instead of rebuilding your 2.3 buy a 5.0 HO from a mustang. It has much more power than the Tbird 5.0 and you can utilize all of the aftermarket parts that are available for Mustangs. I got my 5.0 HO for $300 and it blows the stock Tbird 5.0 away. You can use the wiring harness from the 5.0 Bird but will need a Mustang 5.0 computer. Anyways, I swapped a 5.0 HO in my Tbird that is the 5.0 Sport, and I also put a Mustang T-5 in it. So far at the track I hit 14.9 in the 1/4. Its not that great but its a good start. Just a thought.
88 Tbird Sport Coupe, with a 90 Mustang 5.0HO, Vortech supercharger, T5, 1 5/8 headers, 2.5 inch off-road H-pipe, Flowmasters with turndowns, 3.55 TC Rear end w/ disc brakes, and MAF Conversion.
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TurboCougar Offline
Banned
#10
My vote goes for re-building the 2.3. What exactly is wrong with it? Maybe all you need is a head rebuild? The oil leaking could be the valve cover. Oil supply line at the pressure sender fitting? The valve cover leaks can get real smokey when they leak onto the exaust manifold. 5.0's are a DIME no make that a PENNY a dozen the 2.3 Turbo's are in a class by themselves. I miss my cougar even though the body needed a resto it was a great running engine, indestructible bottom end, great gas mileage and oh yeah, that incredible sound of the turbo spooling up and down was awesome. I still am thinking that my next car will have a turbo or TWO! We'll see..wink wink!
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