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trashline Offline
Posting Freak
#1
damn I knew i forgot something. the spout was in when i set timing. reason being was i didnt do it. my fathers friend did it. ill effects from this? he set it to 10 degrees advance with spout in so i guess i should fix this tomorrow. this could be the problem of my lack of power higher up.

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1966 mustang
1988 tbird

Originally posted by: fordprefect

Mine sounds like twenty crickets on meth!
Brian

www.BCPCustom.com

06 Cobalt SS
66 mustang 289 C4 handfully modded

Stingers IC install and tbird photos
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Ryan H Offline
Posting Freak
#2
YES. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe your EEC is actually RETARDING the timing up top when you set it like this! I had the same problem when I couldn't find the EEC disable jumper on my grandma's Geo.

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Ryan Harris

88 TC, 5 spd, B&M Ripper Shifter, Walbro 190 LPH, Aeromotive FPR, K&N, 3.73 rear, KS disconnected, BCS bypassed, 89K miles
'88 TC Smile Walbro 255HP, Stinger FMIC, PIT BOV, Pro 5.0, Kirban, RR cam, FRPP strut tower brace, T3
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Jeff K Offline
Administrator
#3
Ryan is right.... at 1000 RPM hot idle, computed timing is around 28 deg. With timing set to 10 deg with the SPOUT plug in, the whole timing curve is about 18 deg retardrd from where it is supposed to be. I'll bet that thing can barely get out of its own way with the timing set like that!

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Jeff Korn

88 Turbo Coupe: Intake and exhaust mods, T3 turbo at 23 psi, forced air intercooler, water injection, bypass valve, Ranger roller cam, subframes, etc., etc.. // 86 Tbird 5.0 (original owner): intake, exhaust, valvetrain mods, 100 HP nitrous, ignition, gears, suspension, etc., etc.... // 91 Escort: Bone stock winter car // 04 Taurus Duratec (wifes car) // 91 Topaz (daughters first car)
Jeff Korn

88 Turbo Coupe: Intake and exhaust mods, T3 turbo at 24 psi, forced air IC, water injection, BPV, Ranger cam, subframes, etc., etc.
86 Tbird 5.0 (original owner): intake, exhaust, valvetrain mods, 100 HP N2O, ignition, gears, suspension, etc., etc.
05 Taurus SEL Duratec daily driver
04 Taurus Duratec (wifes car)
02 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
95 Taurus GL Vulcan winter beater
67 Honda 450 Super Sport - completely customized
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Pete D Offline
Administrator
#4
I did something sort of similar when I was going through the white car. I set the timing, spout out, then forgot to put it back. I went for a test drive and couldn't figure out where the performance went. That lasted abut a minute, then I realized what was going on. It does not run well on 12* total advance
Pete Dunham


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trashline Offline
Posting Freak
#5
so this is probably my WOT problem then and not the fuel. im buying a timing light and doing it myself. Im a little pissed b/c I even told the guythe spout had to be out. oh well.

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1966 mustang
1988 tbird

Originally posted by: fordprefect

Mine sounds like twenty crickets on meth!
Brian

www.BCPCustom.com

06 Cobalt SS
66 mustang 289 C4 handfully modded

Stingers IC install and tbird photos
http://community.webshots.com/user/trashline
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Jeff K Offline
Administrator
#6
Timing that retarded will make the car feel as powerful as an SUV powered by a lawn mower engine.

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Jeff Korn

88 Turbo Coupe: Intake and exhaust mods, T3 turbo at 23 psi, forced air intercooler, water injection, bypass valve, Ranger roller cam, subframes, etc., etc.. // 86 Tbird 5.0 (original owner): intake, exhaust, valvetrain mods, 100 HP nitrous, ignition, gears, suspension, etc., etc.... // 91 Escort: Bone stock winter car // 04 Taurus Duratec (wifes car) // 91 Topaz (daughters first car)
Jeff Korn

88 Turbo Coupe: Intake and exhaust mods, T3 turbo at 24 psi, forced air IC, water injection, BPV, Ranger cam, subframes, etc., etc.
86 Tbird 5.0 (original owner): intake, exhaust, valvetrain mods, 100 HP N2O, ignition, gears, suspension, etc., etc.
05 Taurus SEL Duratec daily driver
04 Taurus Duratec (wifes car)
02 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
95 Taurus GL Vulcan winter beater
67 Honda 450 Super Sport - completely customized
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trashline Offline
Posting Freak
#7
so i re did the timing. with the spout out. it was aprox 14 degrees off. with the spout in timing read around 24 degrees. i set it to 10 degrees btdc. i hope it isnt to bad now. lol.

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1966 mustang
1988 tbird

Originally posted by: fordprefect

Mine sounds like twenty crickets on meth!
Brian

www.BCPCustom.com

06 Cobalt SS
66 mustang 289 C4 handfully modded

Stingers IC install and tbird photos
http://community.webshots.com/user/trashline
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trashline Offline
Posting Freak
#8
WOW I feel ike i just woke upa sleeping giant. this thing moves like a cat. cant belive the difference haha. i can see a blown HG again. j/k i hope not. stil has crappy idle issues.

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1966 mustang
1988 tbird
Finally have mods that I can post... 373 gears with a brand new t5. K&N cone. Gillis set to 15 psi. Walbro 255 lph. Kirban afpr. Kelly Evo Z tires. Energy suspension front swaybar bushings. Rebuilt topend with stock components.

Working on a FMIC w/ the stock IC.
Brian

www.BCPCustom.com

06 Cobalt SS
66 mustang 289 C4 handfully modded

Stingers IC install and tbird photos
http://community.webshots.com/user/trashline
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PetzJC Offline
Senior Member
#9
Quote:Originally posted by Pete D:
.....then forgot to put it back.....

That forgetting thing is happening more and more often, isn't it Pete......

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88 Silver T/C, original owner, 264,000 miles.
Loaded with everything except leather & auto trans.
K&N, Gillis(18 psi), SVO roller #1, big SS valves, ported intake, head, & exhaust.
Short block & turbo original/untouched.
Spec-II/III combo clutch assembly.
Polyurethane bushings throughout, Goodyear GT-HR 235/55R16's.
Former owner of 88 Silver T/C, loaded (except leather & A/T), original owner, 294,815 miles!!!
K&N, Gillis(18 psi), SVO roller #1, big SS valves, ported intake, head, & exhaust.
Short block & turbo original/untouched, spec-II/III clutch combo.
Polyurethane bushings throughout, Goodyear GT-HR 235/55R16
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Pete D Offline
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#10
Yes it is......uh...uh......John
Pete Dunham


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