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Single Stage Paints with Factory Paint
GoNYYankees02 Offline
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#1
A buddy of mine recently painted his Fox mustang's engine compartment and used a single stage paint while the body is believed to be a two-stage. When you open the engine bay it is a huge difference in the amount of gloss and the shade of the paint is different.
Is my assumption that if you use a single stage paint next to a two stage like that, they do not match correctly. Is this true or was it the brand paint (NAPA) that he used?

Just asking because I'm about to do the same and I don't want it to look that far off.
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Bud30Pk Offline
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#2
Some single stage paints have an "integrated clearcoat". MAACO is notorios for using them.They will never produce the amount of gloss you get with a basecoat/clearcoat application.Engine compartments are not generally clearcoated,(notice when you pop the hood,the shine ends)so a single stage would be good for something like that.
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thecrusher315 Offline
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#3
It was probably the brand of paint he used or it was mixed incorrectly. We have used single stage paint on cheap jobs right next to factory basecoat/clearcoat and had it match in color and shine. Take your car to the local paint supplier PPG, Dupont or the like, and have them match the paint on your car to the single stage your going to use under the hood and it should match almost perfectly. Just for further reference, Some paint stores will also match your exterior paint and put it in a spray bomb can for you. The local DuPont paint store does that here. It works great for those small jobs under the hood or under the car that you want to match the exterior color....Tommy
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BJL Offline
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#4
i painted my car with Dupont centri paint, single stage med gray met.
Tony Sciea has noted a few times that my car is just as shiny or sometimes shinier then his and he used chroma base and chroma clear form Dupont.

we also used a gloss hardener to the pint when we sprayed it also for 225bucks for the gallon of paint hardener and etc it was a great buy and with the help of tony we painted in in one body shop class session and turned out perfect. just my prep work was halfed and because i did a half-a$$ job on the prep it now chips easily.... but you wont have that issue if the prep is done correctly.
thats one thing tony does on his car prep work is a very critical stage an his car come out great and don't have any issues, what im saying is take you time with the prep work and single stage will be great

http://natomessageboard.com/uploads/0000...parvin.jpg http://natomessageboard.com/uploads/0000...1small.jpg

in the second pic you will see that the lower half is the factory paint and the top is the single stage, they are a prefect match, and thy only used the paint code, mixing is a critical factor also
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86ttcoupe Offline
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#5
I agree it probably was just the type of paint because your car probably has single stage paint under hood and in the trunk. If you go to say Napa or some place that mixes autopaint and look at there factory paint chip catalogs most of them will have underhood/trunk paint and they are listed as single stage cant remember the type some kinda urethane enamel not just acrylic has a better chip resistance and what not.
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GoNYYankees02 Offline
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#6
Alright, I'll have to look into it more and cross my fingers that my first experiance with auto paint goes well. I know it's just an engine bay but I'd still like it look nice.

Thanks for all the help guys
-Nick G.
88 TC- under construction. Street/Strip toy.
93 F250 7.3L- D/D
93 Jeep YJ- Offroad Toy.
06 Sportster 1200
03 FXDWG Anniversary-not stock
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tps87turbo Offline
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#7
There are alot of Factors which will affect the Gloss of a Single Stage Paint job - Temperature, Humidity, Type of Reducer, Flash Time between coats, & Spray pattern of the gun & painter. I think Single Stage is just fine for an Engine Bay as Base Coat/Clear Coat costs considerably more in $$ & Time. Good Luck in your project.
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