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#1
i know this is for 2.3 turbos but id like to move up to a 302 or 351. i just cant get that deep agressive sound from my 2.3. and the expense part is to much it seems like the 4cyl is just to much to much to hook up even though it is half the weight. i just want some raw power. i love my 2.3 but here in buffalo all the stangs/camaros/firebirds/big boys have to much power to keep up. how much would it cost to put a serious motor in my bird. and what exactly do i have to change to complete this project. i seen in the showroom somebody has a 351. thanks for any help sorry to bash the 2.3 its a great motor but i need much more peace!
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imjamesw Offline
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Quote:Originally posted by lighting:
i know this is for 2.3 turbos but id like to move up to a 302 or 351. i just cant get that deep agressive sound from my 2.3. and the expense part is to much it seems like the 4cyl is just to much to much to hook up even though it is half the weight. i just want some raw power. i love my 2.3 but here in buffalo all the stangs/camaros/firebirds/big boys have to much power to keep up. how much would it cost to put a serious motor in my bird. and what exactly do i have to change to complete this project. i seen in the showroom somebody has a 351. thanks for any help sorry to bash the 2.3 its a great motor but i need much more peace!

The 2.3 is more powerful than the stock non-HO version of the 302 (5.0) of the same years (87-88). I have a Merc. Cougar with a 302 and it makes 150 HP stock, yet my dad has an 88 TC (2.3, obviously) and it produces 190 HP stock. Check out this page, it may help your decision greatly: http://members.tripod.com/~extreme_tbird/tc-comp.html . If you want "serious" power, stick with what you have. It's cheaper, easier, and is more preservative of our rare cars than what you plan on doing. To each his own, but it doesn't add up to do it any other way. There don't seem to be any pros otherwise.

Good luck with whatever you do.



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no flames... gotta be nice! [Image: rolleyes.gif]

[This message has been edited by imjamesw (edited 09-15-2002).]
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Glenn 88TC Offline
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I agree with keeping the 2.3 also. It is YOUR car though. Check out the site below for some info on the swap you are looking into. It will not be any cheaper though. You will still need a turbo or supercharger to run really fast. The 351 in the showroom has a SC on it. They cost what $3500. Now that is expensive! DFor the cost of the SC alone you could have your TC running 12's with the 2.3. Good luck.
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[This message has been edited by Glenn 88TC (edited 09-15-2002).]
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segfaultxr7 Offline
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#5
The 2.3t is kind of slow in stock form. But you can get into the 13's on considerably less than $1000. For an 87-88 (intercooled), it's $40 for a boost valve, $50 for a K&N cone and intake plumbing, $400 for a custom 3" exhaust including cat/downtube/muffler, $50 for a junkyard T3, and whatever labor is to have the E6 manifold ported. And those prices are generous, too.

With my 88TC, I've just turned up the boost and made a better intake. I test drove a '95 5.0 Mustang GT, and noticed that my TC was actually quicker on the highway. To be fair it was a convertible and had an automatic tranny so it's probably the slowest 5.0 GT, but still. [Image: smile.gif] If you haven't done any modifications yet, at least start out with those two. It'll feel like a whole different engine!
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Chuck W Offline
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#6
I'm not even going to comment aside except to say if you want to put that boat anchor in the front of your car then by all means do it....
If you spend a little time and get to now the 2.3T you'll like it a whole lot better.
"i just cant get that deep agressive sound from my 2.3. " BAH! if that's what you think you need your priorities are out of whack. It's much more fun to beat the Camaro's and such with a 4 cyl..that really pisses them off. What are you proving beating a 5.0 with a 351???? Bigger isn't always better.

Ok, maybe I lied when I wasn't going to say anything. It's just this swap grates on me almost as much as seeing a Ford hot rod with a friggen bow tie motor ARGH!!!

I'm taking an ex-5.0 TBird and dropping in a 2.3T...that's what I think of that.

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Wags88TC Offline
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#7
"A serious motor" Open up the motorsports catalog and pick your "crate" motor --- $3500 and up dumb-ass!!! And that doesn't include the installation and the rest of the parts your gonna need to put the V-8 in the TC.
For the $5-10K, how fast do ya think you can make the 2.3 - 10's!!!
True, it will never "sound" like a V-8, but that's what I love - spankin' the V-8's with my little 4 banger! [Image: biggrin.gif]
Sell your TC and buy something with a V-8, you'll be money ahead, and you'll have your "aggressive sound" and we'll still spank ya at the race! [Image: tongue.gif]

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oldraven Offline
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"i just cant get that deep agressive sound from my 2.3. "

You've got to hear mine. Nothin' wimpy about the growl I get out of her. A deep window shattering roar. It's just a matter of doing the exhaust "right".

If you do make a swap, keep your tc styling, but drop the logos, and don't be calling it a turbo coupe. That burns me. I don't think you're getting much help from this crowd. ezboard fox thunderbird/cougar has a lot of this being done. Go ask them.

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Allan S Offline
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#9
Quote:Originally posted by Wags88TC:
..you can make the 2.3 - 10's!!!


Yup, it is so easy to do that everyone here has already done it and several are getting ready to get into the 9s. [Image: rolleyes.gif]

It's your car. If you want to change the engine, go for it. Just remember it will take a lot of work, especially if you want the V-8 to be fuel injected. A twin turbo 5.0 would be a nice thing to have. [Image: smile.gif]
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Glenn 88TC Offline
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#10
Yes the 10's are achievable and the 9's have been done.

It is his car! It is a turbo coupe! I don't like the fact that he is considering the 5.0 swap either. Guess what? I almost did the same thing this past spring. It is hard to not go the 5.0 route for easy fast performance. You can just drop in a 5.0 and run 13's. You can also spend the same money and run 13's with the 2.3. Turbocoupe5.0 and strimbird(?) both run V-8's and I can't think of a 2.3 on here that can out run with them. I hope to run well into the 12's by Carlisle next year. My goal with the turboed 351 was going to be 10's. I have a ton more money to spend on the 2.3 to try to reach that goal.

All that said, I am just happy that they own a turbocoupe. How many of our cars have been parted out to use the engines for swaps into notches and Pinto's? Yes they took the 2.3 out but they still have the body. It isn't on a scrap pile somewhere to make another piece of shit stang faster. Sorry, just my $.02.
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