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ICVR Question
Big Al Offline
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#1
My idiot gauges will not work. I purchased a new old stock ICVR and installed it last night and still nothing. Everything else in the cluster is fine and I checked the fuse panel. Am I missing something?

I also looked at the newer style regulators that have a capacitor, but I don't think they went up to 9 volts, I think I only found the replacement ones (with a male and female that would swap out) for 6 volts?
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Pete D Offline
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#2
I never heard of the IVR powering lights, just the 3 instruments. Maybe its a fuse??



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Big Al Offline
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#3
I'll check the fuses again.
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Jeff K Offline
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#4
Check the light gray/yellow resistance wire from the ignition switch to the cluster. It isnt part of a harness, it just "hangs" there. If measuring voltage with a DMM at the cluster connector when connector is off the cluster, you should get 12 V with key in RUN.

Pete is right... the IVR has nothing to do with any lighting of any kind.

The mechanical IVR outputs a square wave with a frequency of .5 Hertz or so that varies from around 8 V to 0 V. The average voltage is supposed to be 5 V. Supplying the gauges with a constant 5 V (I found 5.5V works best) with a solid state voltage regulator is the way to go.
Jeff Korn

88 Turbo Coupe: Intake and exhaust mods, T3 turbo at 24 psi, forced air IC, water injection, BPV, Ranger cam, subframes, etc., etc.
86 Tbird 5.0 (original owner): intake, exhaust, valvetrain mods, 100 HP N2O, ignition, gears, suspension, etc., etc.
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Big Al Offline
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#5
I wasn't saying anything about lights. The three idiot gauges do not work.

Can you point me to a solid state voltage regulator that has the matching male and female connectors?

This it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-88-Ford-Ins...lN&vxp=mtr
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Big Al Offline
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#6
Jeff K Wrote:Check the light gray/yellow resistance wire from the ignition switch to the cluster. It isnt part of a harness, it just "hangs" there.

I found a black wire that is in the same pin location as that gray/yellow wire and the black wire is cut. I cannot find the other end of it or where it should go. I tried grounding it but that did not make a difference. The gray/yellow wire looked fine, did not have the ability to measure its voltage.

According to the diagram, The gray/yellow has a black wire coming out of the same pin but I do not know what the rest means in the pic?? It just says shield?


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Big Al Offline
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#7
Got it, the black wire wraps around the gray/yellow wire to shield it.

I'll check the voltage on it when I can
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Big Al Offline
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#8
I have voltage at the gray yellow wire and still no change
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Jeff K Offline
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#9
What voltage did you get at the cluster end of the GY/Y wire? Try a test light at that location. Test light should light, but not full brightness. How bright depends on amp draw of the test light. Might also check the resistance of the wire to see if it is roughly in spec.
Jeff Korn

88 Turbo Coupe: Intake and exhaust mods, T3 turbo at 24 psi, forced air IC, water injection, BPV, Ranger cam, subframes, etc., etc.
86 Tbird 5.0 (original owner): intake, exhaust, valvetrain mods, 100 HP N2O, ignition, gears, suspension, etc., etc.
05 Taurus SEL Duratec daily driver
04 Taurus Duratec (wifes car)
02 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
95 Taurus GL Vulcan winter beater
67 Honda 450 Super Sport - completely customized
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anasazi4st Offline
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#10
I'm not sure if this will help with this problem, but I'd recommend you find a better electrical schematic than the one you've posted. It looks like that's a page from the manual that accompanies Ford's official shop manual set. While the other manuals are very good, I've found various inaccuracies in those schematics (my copy is full of handwritten notes), to the point that I'll only use it as a "second opinion" or to correlate data from another source.

Items often don't appear within the current flow, or point to the wrong areas/other items which are incorrect.

For what it is--which is a simple schematic to quickly diagnose problems--it works okay. But for a more serious problem IMHO I think you'll need a better schematic.

Years ago a fellow TC owner loaned me his Chilton manual, which I promptly photocopied all the wiring schematics I found within. I just did a quick search and found this, which is a somewhat better choice (I'm sure others here have better ones):

http://www.autozone.com/repairinfo/repai...528006bbb5

Hope that helps.
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