moneypit
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Hurlburt Field, FL
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I've been reading up on the five lug swap for my '88 TC. Some of the information is sketchy, so I'd like to make certain I have it all figured out before I go ahead.
I've got a set of aftermarket 18x9 Bullits with 275/35ZR18 Yokohama AVS ES100s that I'm wanting to install, and I'd like to do it on the cheap.
So, for the front:
Lincoln Mark VII rotors for '87-'92
For the rear:
Lincoln Mark VII axles and rotors, same years.
Will this be all I need? (Except new pads, of course) Will these parts work for my car?
Thank you for your input!
'88 TurboCoupe, '01 Impala, '83 Crown Vic, '95 Jeep Cherokee, 63.5 Galaxie Fastback, '57 Studebaker President... So many cars, so little time.
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V6TBird87
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For the front, you are correct. The rear, not so much.
The Mark VII uses different length axles, and depending on the year, totally different brakes. If you can source a 91-92 LSC, it is less work. They use the same calipers and slide brackets, and you need the rotors, axles, and axle end brackets. The lines, e-brake cables, and everything is a direct swap. The most difficult part is that you have to cut off the TC's anti-moan brackets. The Mark VII doesnt use the brackets since they use a much thicker bracket.
Do you intend on keeping your ABS?
2018 Mustang GT
1988 Turbo Coupe, 5-speed
aka Tbird232ci
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moneypit
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Quote:Originally posted by V6TBird87:
For the front, you are correct. The rear, not so much.
The Mark VII uses different length axles, and depending on the year, totally different brakes. If you can source a 91-92 LSC, it is less work. They use the same calipers and slide brackets, and you need the rotors, axles, and axle end brackets. The lines, e-brake cables, and everything is a direct swap. The most difficult part is that you have to cut off the TC's anti-moan brackets. The Mark VII doesnt use the brackets since they use a much thicker bracket.
Do you intend on keeping your ABS?
I'm kind of indifferent on the ABS.
Is there an easier way to do the rear? Like Ranger or Aerostar axles and machining the stock rotors to accept five lugs and the center hole?
'88 TurboCoupe, '01 Impala, '83 Crown Vic, '95 Jeep Cherokee, 63.5 Galaxie Fastback, '57 Studebaker President... So many cars, so little time.
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V6TBird87
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No there is not. The Ranger/Aerostar axles require you to drill out your rotors, and cut and flip your brackets. It also brings you wheels in 3/4 of an inch per side.
2018 Mustang GT
1988 Turbo Coupe, 5-speed
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94Lightning
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Springfield, Missouri
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so the Lincoln brakes share the same ABS ring the birds do?
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V6TBird87
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If its the same, I'm unsure. Either way, with the Lincoln axles, you need the Lincoln brackets, which house the ABS sensors. If you swap the axles and brackets, the ABS system doesn't know anything different.
The front rotors do share the same rings. The rotors are identical other than the lug pattern.
2018 Mustang GT
1988 Turbo Coupe, 5-speed
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darkthunder
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Walled Lake, MI
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Just to add my two cents...
IMO the easiest way to convert the rear is by using SN-95 Axles, Rotors, Calipers/Bracket. You can keep your TC soft lines, anti-moans, parking brake cables and axle plates in place. If you want to retain your ABS, it would probably be best to just swap the rings as they are pressed on.
http://natomessageboard.com/cgi-bin/ulti...500#000000
But it all really depends on what you have access to. If you already have, or have access to the Mark VII parts then I would go with those. If not I would consider the SN-95 stuff.
darkthunder - 85 TC// 302/C4
2009 Subaru WRX//daily driver
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