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cash for clunkers
xcrunnerbd Offline
Posting Freak
#1
This has been recently revived. Write your congresspeople. I don't think it will have the impact everyone says it will the way it is currently written:

CONGRESS REVIVES “CASH-FOR-CLUNKERS” PROPOSAL. Democrats in Congress have re-intro­duced the idea of offering government incentives to consumers who scrap older vehicles to buy new, more fuel-efficient models.
Such plans have been sweeping across Europe, where they are credited with boosting car sales in Germany last month by nearly 22%.
The U.S. legislation has the support of all three domes­tic automakers and the United Auto Workers union. General Motors Corp. CEO Rick Wagoner told reporters yester­day that a cash-for-clunkers program could have a “huge impact” on auto sales. However, the proposal could face strong opposition from foreign OEMs and those opposed to additional spending programs.
The bill being drafted by Rep. Betty Sutton (D-Ohio) would offer vouchers for $3,000-$7,500 to owners of vehi­cles at least eight years old. The old vehicles traded in would have to be crushed or recycled and replaced by more fuel-efficient models.
Only vehicles built in North America that cost less than $35,000 would be eligible for the program. To qualify, the new U.S.-made passenger cars also would have to achieve 27 mpg on the highway. The minimum highway mileage would be 30 mpg for cars built in Canada and Mexico and 24 mpg for all light trucks.
The size of the voucher would depend on the fuel economy of the vehicle purchased and where it was made. A $7,500 voucher would apply only to the purchase of vehi­cles that attain at least 100 miles per gallon. That would appear to apply only to the Chevrolet Volt plug-in electric sedan GM plans to launch late next year.
An attempt in Congress earlier this year to pass a “clunkers for cash” bill fizzled when lawmakers could not agree on whether the program should subsidize the purchase of foreign-brand vehicles. Many cars built by foreign OEMs in North America would qualify for the new program. By some accounts, Toyota, Honda and domestic companies would be likely to benefit from that plan.
Project 13 sec. / 30mpg in '88 TC 5Speed : [email protected] / 32+ mpg

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Shelf: .48 T3, ported E6, BPV

TurboCoupe50 Offline
Posting Freak
#2
I'd be more than happy to get $7500 for my '93 Grand Marquis, they could do whatever with it... Course I know that'd mean I have to buy one of those Voltage thingys, so no doubt it ain't gonna happen...
1988 Turbo Coupe331 AOD

1972 Comet GT

1969 Fairlane Cobra 428CJ 4-Speed

bgjohnson Offline
Member
#3
You know I think this is a great idea. Not only does it keep the USA auto makers a float, it could stimulate the economy. I guess it would be better for the environment too.

But having to buy a new car that is 15-30K still sucks. I hate loans. But for some people it might be perfect.
89 mustang 408 TT
Project 2.3T fairmont wagon DD

Pete D Offline
Administrator
#4
This had been revived but was then quashed out of some recent bill (bailout)

However, Mr. Wagoner, leader of the GM decline that has been reorganizing GM since 2000 was promoting it as a successful idea that had worked in Germany, as a way to oncrease new car sales.

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86 XR7 5spd Offline
Senior Member
#5
w/o criticizing specific small details I (wherein the devil often lies)...

I Definitely Like the overall concept, and Fully Support an intelligent application
David T
T5 / ported E3 / .63 / 35# / K&N
2.5" exhaust w/ cherry bomb
30+ mpg! 8.2 0-60, [email protected] 1/4 (gTech)

Jeff K Offline
Administrator
#6
Ya.... I think I will junk my TC that gets better gas mileage than most modern cars, and burns just as clean as modern cars as verified by the state emissions test..... NOT!

Dont get me wrong.... Newer cars are nice..... I love my 05 Taurus SEL Duratec and 02 Grand Prix GT.... reasonable power, handling, and comfort, but they cant hold a caldle to the power, fuel economy, handling and comfort of my 88TC and 86 Tbird 5.0.
Jeff Korn

88 Turbo Coupe: Intake and exhaust mods, T3 turbo at 24 psi, forced air IC, water injection, BPV, Ranger cam, subframes, etc., etc.
86 Tbird 5.0 (original owner): intake, exhaust, valvetrain mods, 100 HP N2O, ignition, gears, suspension, etc., etc.
05 Taurus SEL Duratec daily driver
04 Taurus Duratec (wifes car)
02 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
95 Taurus GL Vulcan winter beater
67 Honda 450 Super Sport - completely customized

Tom Senior Offline
Banned
#7
This clunker stuff is sereyous. If they get there foot in the door they will make it impossible to register old cars. They will tighten the emission laws so tight on older cars they will fail. And if its modified you automatically FAIL. Look at japan you can only drive 3 year old cars or newer. They tax the old cars so heavy no one can afford them. And if you can pay the tax the car has to be totally rebuilt and inspected and meet emission standards of the present year. Dont wish to hard for something you may get it. Never let big brother control anything that is a big mistake.

thumper Offline
Posting Freak
#8
Quote:Originally posted by Tom Senior:
This clunker stuff is sereyous. If they get there foot in the door they will make it impossible to register old cars. They will tighten the emission laws so tight on older cars they will fail. And if its modified you automatically FAIL. Look at japan you can only drive 3 year old cars or newer. They tax the old cars so heavy no one can afford them. And if you can pay the tax the car has to be totally rebuilt and inspected and meet emission standards of the present year. Dont wish to hard for something you may get it. Never let big brother control anything that is a big mistake.
Agreed. My guns and cars are mine, not Uncle Sams.
A.K.A. Corey Bennett

1988 TC: white, all options, 5-speed swap, K&N cone filter, "Ranger" roller camshaft, .60/.63 T3, NXS (Gillis-style) Boost Valve, Bosch BOV w/ check valve, Stinger 3" with axle dump (18" glass pack), 95A 3G

Some pictures: http://s639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/cbennett4041/

Pete D Offline
Administrator
#9
Quote: Fully Support an intelligent application
This will be brought to you by the group that so carefully and, I might add, skillfully brought you over sight of you bail out money.

These clowns couldn't over see a bowl of cold vegetable soup
Pete Dunham



5.0TurboCoupe1988 Offline
Posting Freak
#10
i truly hate the government. name one thing the government does well besides fleecing hard working americans...
1988 TC 2.3/5-Speed, 148K





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