Eliminator SS
|
Joined:
Feb 2013
Nebraska
|
|
I have a hard time believing you guys stick with the stock Mass Air Meter after modifying these cars. I can't see it flowing enough air to be much good over about 400hp. What are you guys using for alternative Mass Air Meters, and how are you using them?
1971 Camaro RS/SS, Built 355 Small Block, 426hp. Muncie 4spd. Ford 9" rear.
1979 Camaro Z28, 1974 Corvette LT1, TH350, WS6 TA Rear Axle.
1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST, AWD Conversion, Built 6 Bolt 4G63T, Custom FMIC, FP3065 Turbo, 579hp.
|
84TBirdTurbo42
|
Joined:
Jun 2006
Angola NY
|
|
thats because there not mass air meters, there Vane Air Flow Meters.
Chris Perry
1984 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. Dead, NY rot killed her
1986 Thunderbird shell, swapping parts from the 84.
|
86XR7auto
|
Joined:
Mar 2003
Mt. Pleasant, MI. USA
|
|
and the are not accurate over 250ish flywheel hp... hence why everyone cranks the fuel pressure to try to competsate...
I remember reading on TF years ago about the T3 turbo at 19psi on a totally stock 2.3T engine out flowed the ability of the VAM...
That is why modding a 2.3T is cheap to start...but if you want to make bigger power reliably....it starts costing $$.
Travis
|
Eliminator SS
|
Joined:
Feb 2013
Nebraska
|
|
Wow so they aren't much good at all. So what's the alternative? Are there ways of putting a mass air meter on these that flow more? If the stock meter only flows 250hp we've already out flowed its capacity. I'll be ordering a megasquirt ecu so I'd assume anything is possible. Are you guys running more HP running speed density or what?
1971 Camaro RS/SS, Built 355 Small Block, 426hp. Muncie 4spd. Ford 9" rear.
1979 Camaro Z28, 1974 Corvette LT1, TH350, WS6 TA Rear Axle.
1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST, AWD Conversion, Built 6 Bolt 4G63T, Custom FMIC, FP3065 Turbo, 579hp.
|
boosted chicken
|
Joined:
Jan 2006
Odessa, Texas
|
|
You can run some type of Quarterhorse or Moates stuff and run a MAF setup but most people (me included) just go to speed density. Much simpler, for me anyway.
88 TC#1 2.9L tall deck. Essy SVO head, Boport header, BW SX369 turbo, C4 trans, MS2xtra
88 TC#2 drag car project(someday)
88 TC#3 parts car (just needed the header panel...bought the whole car, lol)
|
RDOG
|
Joined:
Jun 2001
Ontario. California U.S.A.
|
|
If you are going to a megasquirt you will be dumping the VAM and wont need a MAS. Many people are running the stinger pimp system.
I'm lazy, so I am having a speed shop install the MAS and he will be tuning with a tweecer. He says my car will run great when he is done, so we will see.
1986 Turbo Coupe. Boport StageIII head, Boport 2.1, Performance Techniques 50 trim hybird, StageII.63, stinger 3" exhaust, Phenolic spacer, Boglog header,NPR FMIC intercooler setup, kirban fpr, bigrmotorsports fuel rail, diablo water meth kit, CAI, remote mount TFI, CHE rear adj control arms, MAC girdle, 8.8 rear disc, aluminum drive shaft, H&R lowerings springs Tbird Turbo Specific, y MAS!!
|
Dan S
|
Joined:
Jan 2003
Harrisburg, PA
|
|
The instructions for the PiMP are as follows: :read:
"Remove factory air meter/airbox assembly (VAM) and install a cone filter in its place." :happydance:
|
Eliminator SS
|
Joined:
Feb 2013
Nebraska
|
|
What's the pimp? Is the Pimp what is used with the megasquirt?
1971 Camaro RS/SS, Built 355 Small Block, 426hp. Muncie 4spd. Ford 9" rear.
1979 Camaro Z28, 1974 Corvette LT1, TH350, WS6 TA Rear Axle.
1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST, AWD Conversion, Built 6 Bolt 4G63T, Custom FMIC, FP3065 Turbo, 579hp.
|
Dan S
|
Joined:
Jan 2003
Harrisburg, PA
|
|
PiMP is a standalone ECU replacement for the stock ECU.
http://stinger-performance.proboards.com/
|
|
|
Use a 3 Bar MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor with the moates quarterhorse and BE tuning software or pimp
-88 TC Black
5spd, Precision SC50 T3/T4, QH/SD Tune, Gillis, AFPR, 255FP, WB O2, K&N, Ported E6, 3" DP, ATR 2.5" Duals, 3:73 Rear, Konis, Eibachs, 18" Voxx Wheels, X Drilled Rotors.
-06 G35 Coupe Diamond Graphite
-97 Pathfinder
|
|
