86XR7auto
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Mar 2003
Mt. Pleasant, MI. USA
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The car is 27 years old, that could be 174k. I would look at the shifter and other ware items in the interior.
I would do a compression test to see what is going on. If the compression is pretty even per cylnder. If you can get her running good. It will be a nice cruzer.
Travis
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Pete D
Joined:
Apr 2001
Northern OH
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Your car has a two pump set up, one in the tank and a second inline pump. Here are a couple fuel related article that may help in your diagnosis:
http://www.turbotbird.com/techinfo/Fuel_...ostics.htm
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http://www.turbotbird.com/techinfo/Fuel_...ostics.htm
Have you checked for spark at the plugs?
Make sure the cam is turning when it cranks -pull out the plug on the front cam cover and observe the cam pulley when the engine is cranked. If it doesn't turn, the belt is broken or teeth are stripped off. Not a big deal to repair.
Pete Dunham
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84TBirdTurbo42
Joined:
Jun 2006
Angola NY
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wouldn't be surprised if the high pressure pump went bad, happened to mine after it sat for awhile
Chris Perry
1984 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. Dead, NY rot killed her
1986 Thunderbird shell, swapping parts from the 84.
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PoorDad
Joined:
Feb 2011
Arvada, CO
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It has plenty of spark, so I'm assuming the cam and belt/chain are good.
Is this a rubber band engine? With a cam BELT and not a chain?
Is this a zero clearance engine? Belt or chain breaks = head shot to hell?
Thanks for the links Pete.
Chris Harris
1984 TC 5-spd. Bone stock and broken....... for the time being.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons; for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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PoorDad
Joined:
Feb 2011
Arvada, CO
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Quote:Originally posted by 86XR7auto:
The car is 27 years old, that could be 174k. I would look at the shifter and other ware items in the interior.
Travis
Good point.
I'll post some pics this afternoon. I gotta run out with the family and do our weekly shopping right now.
From my perspective, the car really does have 79k miles. The shifter numbers aren't worn off. Foot pedals don't appear overly worn. Carpet on driver side isn't worn out. Seats not worn through. Steering wheel not overly worn.
But you guys might spot something I am not looking for. I'll get some close-up pics posted this afternoon.
Chris Harris
1984 TC 5-spd. Bone stock and broken....... for the time being.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons; for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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Pete D
Joined:
Apr 2001
Northern OH
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It's a belt driven cam and belts are cheap. The recommended change interval is 60K miles. There is an article on the process and lots of past posts with info; http://www.turbotbird.com/techinfo/CamTi...t%20Up.htm
It's a non-interference engine. No piston to valve contact with stock lift camshafts.
Pete Dunham
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PoorDad
Joined:
Feb 2011
Arvada, CO
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Some closer pics of the interior.
http://s437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/...o%20Coupe/
I've got fuel leaking someplace. The entire intake is full of fuel and I can hear a sizzling/bubbling sound under the hood. I don't know if it's an injector seal or the fuel rail. Something is leaking a LOT of fuel.
It's leaked so much fuel that the intake is full and the fuel is leaking out onto the ground now. I popped the hood and was shocked by the fuel smell.
I'm trying to upload a video to photobucket, but it's not going well. Either slow speed today or photobucket is on the fritz again.
Chris Harris
1984 TC 5-spd. Bone stock and broken....... for the time being.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons; for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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PoorDad
Joined:
Feb 2011
Arvada, CO
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The leak is coming from the injectors. It's either leaking where the injectors fit into the rail or it's leaking where the injectors seat into the manifold near the head.
I started looking for a valve to relieve the fuel pressure in the rail and lines.
I found a shrader valve near the firewall , just above the windshield wiper motor, and tried to relieve the pressure in the fuel system. Either thats not the place to dump the fuel system pressure, or there's something very wrong. It squirted fuel out, at very high pressure, for a solid 2 minutes before I gave up. I'm thinking this must be the spot where you would hook up a gauge to measure fuel pressure during tuning.
Chris Harris
1984 TC 5-spd. Bone stock and broken....... for the time being.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons; for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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4cammer72
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Jul 2005
swansea, sc ,usa
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its not the injectors .... most likely its the fuel pressure regulator that has gone bad. its on the fuel rail towards the front and has a vaccum line from the intake to it.... a replacement is cheap enough and they are the same ones the 5.0s use... you need to pull the plugs and the main coil wire off and get the excess fuel out so you dont hydrolock the engine....actually unplug the electrical connection to the coil so you dont start a fire..... youll need an oil change afterwards too..
88tc (sold) but keeping an eye out.
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russ c
Joined:
Nov 2005
Mt. Olive,NC
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The injector O'rings need replaced. If you put new injectors in they will come with new O'rings. When installing the injectors use a lubricant on the O'rings, I use white lithium grease.
86TC Saved from certain death
88TC Gave its life so other TCs could live.
88TC DD.
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