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  Donut tire size?
Posted by: goingincirclez - 08-05-2023, 01:16 AM - Replies (4)

The spare donut that came with the '87 TC I bought a few months ago has a solid steel Ford rim/wheel, and brand new unused Goodyear 125-70R16 tire.    Sounds right, and approximately matches the diameter of OEM-spec full size wheels, but it doesn't fit in the donut well!  It's really difficult to remove/insert (can barely clear the decklid brackets) and once I do get it wedged in, the OEM trim cover doesn't fit right.

The donut that came with my '88 V6 is a 70R15.   Fits like a glove in both cars.   But of course it's smaller overall diameter than a full-size tire/wheel. 

For gits and shiggles I tried an 80R15 donut and of course, it doesn't fit in the donut well without a lot of grief and the same ill-fitting cover.

Seems obvious then that the 70r15 donut is the way to go, but I wanted to be sure the TC isn't a deviant in this respect?   Especially given the larger brakes, etc.   What size SHOULD a TC donut be?

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  For Sale 1987 Turbo Coupe 57,000 Miles
Posted by: Luckydog77 - 08-04-2023, 07:35 PM - Replies (4)

For sale a 1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. This car is in excellent condition with only 57,000 original miles. Primarily a California car which is now in Arizona. I purchased this car with the intention of installing a Coyote motor in it however it is such a great running all original car I changed my mind. Since these cars are so scarce I decided to keep it stock. The car runs, drives and stops great. It is now offered for sale to a Turbo Coupe enthusiast to purchase.

Original equipment:

Turbo Charged 4 cylinder 2.3 Liter fuel injected

5 speed transmission

Automatic driver controlled ride control

Limited slip rear end

Power Steering

Power 4 wheel disc brakes

Cruise control

New battery

A/C operational

Power antenna operational

Power windows and door locks

Power drivers seat with lumbar

Both seats adjust easily

Leather interior

Tilt steering wheel

Original carpet and floor mats in like new condition

Dash mat and rear deck mat

Original AM FM cassette fully operational

New aluminum heavy duty radiator

New windshield

Viper 5900 alarm

K&N air filter

130 Amp alternator

New fuel pump: fuel tank is clean

2 seat of original keys and Viper fobs

BFG G Force Super Sport 225/55/16 Tires on freshly painted Mustang wheels

Rubber trunk mat

Undercarriage in excellent condition: no rust

Freshly detailed with paint buff


Needs:

Mufflers need replaced. I chose to let the new owner pick his brand and noise level.

ABS light is on but stops fine ?

Heater core is leaking and is disconnected

$ 11,500 Price drop !!

See Craigslist Phoenix for 24 photos of the car

Call Wayne at 602 390 783four

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  Valve springs
Posted by: shiloh66 - 07-31-2023, 12:46 AM - Replies (3)

Looking for suggestions on some better than stock drop in valve springs. Thanks

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  Chime module wiring?
Posted by: vegas_ss - 07-30-2023, 12:01 AM - Replies (3)

Had the connector off the chime module and a few minutes later the connector fell off and now I have a bunch (10) of wires and have no idea which position they would go in the connector. The wiring manual isn't telling me much but perhaps someone can make sense of it?



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  WTB chime module WITH PIGTAIL
Posted by: vegas_ss - 07-29-2023, 11:55 PM - No Replies

WTB chime module WITH PIGTAIL for a 87 turbo coupe.  The module is located under the headlight switch and held in with a couple small bolts on the bottom of the dash.  Reply with photo and price including shipping to 89149.

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  88TC T5 trans, MGW Shifter
Posted by: John B - 07-24-2023, 01:36 PM - Replies (2)

I have a 88TC WC T5 and MGW shifter for sale.

88TC WC T5: has 94XXX miles on it. Jasper rebuilt the transmission in 2016. The only thing of note is that I believe they put in the wrong 5th gear. Based on my math, I believe they put in the 85-85 5th gear of .81 and not the .79 found in the 87-88TC. Asking $200. Local pickup only. I'm willing to drive half way up to a hour and a half to meet up. I'm located in New Jersey (07054)

MGW Shifter: T5 toploader short throw shifter. I have three different handles for it (need to find the other two). Here's a link to the item: https://www.mgwshifters.com/shifters/mustangs/73   My version has a yellow body instead of blue. Asking $100 shipped.

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  Low fuel light always on
Posted by: matiii1 - 07-17-2023, 12:22 PM - Replies (7)

I have 87 Tbird and for about a year the low fuel light stays on about 95 percent of the time but does go out on occasions.I know i have at least half tank full most of the time.The fuel gauge reads about where it should.Is the sensor for this light on the fuel pump/sending unit or is it somewhere in the fuel line upstream from the tank.Any help would be appreciated.

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Sad NO AMMETER!
Posted by: anasazi4st - 07-14-2023, 10:04 PM - Replies (27)

I am in fairly desperate need of some advice.

A week ago I completed the 130 amp 3G Alternator upgrade. I had wanted to do this for a while—a new job has me driving home an hour after dark, and with the headlamps on (although the lighting system is 99% LEDs), the EATC on 72 degrees (it’s ONLY around 105 by then [!!]) and the various other systems at work, I was concerned that the stock one was eventually going to fail (I’ve had this one since around 2004). (Backstory: when I first got the car I was going through a battery a year—just the usual parts store crap—and an alternator every two or three; oh, and an ignition switch about the same. Well, Jeff’s Headlamp Relay upgrade solved most of those issues, as well as a good battery [like a DieHard]—but again, I haven’t driven the car regularly at night in at least 20 years).

I got it from Pa Performance—enough others on here had done the same so I wasn’t in the mood to price shop, just get what’s recommended. I was chatting online with Customer Service and also ordered the Premium Long Wire, which after it arrived I could see it was way TOO long—got the Short one instead. They had kind of freaked me out when I was told the 130 would burn right through a 10 gauge wire—DOH!—even though I tried to explain that I was upgrading TWO OTHER 10 gauge wires as well, which should cover the extra amperage. So not wishing to take a chance I used that wire (Cable?!) with its 200amp fuse for the Starter Relay to Alternator Output connection.

I followed Jeff’s Tech Article pretty much to the letter—except for that heavier gauge PaPerformance connection. When I was all done—and with fire extinguisher handy (I told you they had kind of freaked me out!), I reconnected the battery and started it up. All good—nothing was overly hot or even warm (although everything is warm when it’s still 95 at 5 am!), voltage started out at around 14.45, eventually came down to 14.20. Everything was powered on to draw up the load. Great job! I’d have a beer if it wasn’t almost dawn.

ONLY—there is no ammeter. Nothing. Right on the line, no charge or discharge, which usually shows a slight charge.This morning I stuck probes in the Red/Orange wire—one of two spliced (#S261) by the green wire with the 14 gauge fusible link, at one end of the yellow shunt wire; and the Yellow/Light Green one (by the other end of the yellow shunt wire, splice #S262). According to the EVTM, these are the wires that connect to the ammeter. There is continuity, so nothing is fried there. I started the car and measured the voltage it was getting—with the MM set at 20 and the lights on: 0.02. Lights off: 0.01. Now, I have never tested the ammeter this way before, so I don’t know what that number is supposed to be—but that obviously seems very low to me.

Here is what I have: red 10 gauge wire spliced into the start of the 37 Yellow shunt wire (splice #261) to Alternator Output screw; red 10 gauge wire running from the ORIGINAL Alternator output wire (38 Black/Orange, which is at the OTHER end, splice #262) to the Alternator Output screw; 4 gauge red PaPerformance cable (with fuse) running from Alternator Output screw to Battery side of the Starter Relay (on the driver’s fender).

There are total of 6 wires that attach to that connection; amongst them the Viper alarm, etc.

I also replaced the Regulator plug, as mine was a bit corroded and nasty. There are three wires that form that connector: White, Yellow, and Green. The white Stator wire from the included Upgrade kit attaches to the White wire, in the center; the Yellow/White wire from the original plug attaches to the Yellow wire; and lastly the Light Green/Red wire from the original plug attaches to the Green one.

That’s it. I can’t understand why it doesn’t work! This is particularly disturbing in that, with the heat settling in and the Monsoons about to start—with nasty humidity—I have to start this troubleshooting work at around dawn and then quit after only an hour or two (once the temps start to rise), and put it aside until the next morning.

I know that the scientific and philosophical rule known as Occam’s Razor states that the simplest solution is often the most obvious. I’ve tried replacing the heavy 4 gauge cable with the one Jeff suggests we make (with a 175 amp fuse)—it didn’t help, and now the Red wire spliced with the Black/Orange former Output wire seems to get a bit warmer. So I put it back.

In various posts/clarifications Jeff has suggested splicing one Output wire (#1) to one end of the yellow Shunt wire, and the other (#2) to the OTHER end. I am tempted to try this, but that should not matter, as the Black/Orange wire that is spliced to #2 has continuity as is PART OF THE SAME SPLICE  (#262) as the yellow Shunt wire. How could that make a difference?

What are your thoughts? Is there something obviously (or not so) wrong with what I’m doing? Here is a diagram I drew up (it’s okay to download it, apparently the only way I can post it):

https://www.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sc...gabuc&dl=0

I had carefully planned any Upgrade or Modification work for way before the heat started, but this idea seemed like a good one so I went ahead with it. And yes, I could go with an Aftermarket gauge, as I know the stock one is often incorrect. But I can’t get over the feeling that this doesn’t work and it’s part of a larger problem that will soon show itself, and hopefully not with flames and smoke.  Angry

Any suggestions would probably be most helpful. Thanks in advance.

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Question Is it possible to convert Analog cluster to Digital?
Posted by: goingincirclez - 07-14-2023, 01:24 PM - No Replies

Yeah I know just the idea would be mostly considered sacrilege but hear me out  Big Grin

As a "classic" car, a Turbo Coupe represents some bleeding edge experimental thinking, from the boosted 4cyl in a heavy coupe (competing with 8c output) to early ABS and electronic suspension.  It screams "80's nerd lab" for better and (not much) worse.   So I've personally felt the analog cluster was always a bit of a thematic letdown.   Analog is reliable, but ancient and everywhere and boring.   Digital was THE WAVE of the future we're now in.    The full-digital cluster in my '88 V6 was one of my (and my friends') favorite features on that car.    

So, feature for feauture, the only things a TC analog cluster has that aren't in the full-digi version are the boost gauge and the PRC light.   Well, everyone acknowledges the boost gauge isn't particularly reliable (so much for Analog superiority) and the PRC light is... just a light, which many people nerf anyway when they change shocks.   No big loss, and going to the full-digi cluster would replicate most of the Systems Sentry lights in that otherwise dumb panel, freeing up that space for other things (like an aftermarket boost gauge or other goodies).   Coolcats.net even has an article about adding the tripminder (which used to be where the basic clock is) to base-digi and analog cars, using sensors and wiring already present in the EEC wiring.  So that full-digi feature could work too!

So I'd like to think my idea has merit.  That said, surely I'm not the only one who's had it BUT I know it cannot be particularly easy.  You'd have to change sending units, and get the cluster (tach) calibrated.  And of course hacking and splicing and tying in the wiring harnesses, oy... which I'm sure were fed exclusively via the 6 and 8c EEC modules on cars so equipped, which of course won't work with the 4.   But I hear there are aftermarket tuner EEC's out there so... could those be made compatible?

Just spitballing here as a newbie and idiot.   I'm very curious to know what's been attempted or discovered for better and worse over the years.

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  Power steering whine
Posted by: Fordsolo197 - 07-13-2023, 06:22 PM - Replies (1)

All,

My son and i have changed everything but the rack.

The dead spot ion the steering is gone but the rebuilt pump squeals louder than the bad one.

We have drained, bled, cycled the steering, everything that we have read about.

We put steering enhancer and still it whines loud.

I know this is a know 80's Ford "thing", but it shouldn't be louder than the turbo......

Any idea's are greatly appreciated.

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